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The Order: 1886
Ready at Dawn Creative Director Speaks Out on The Order: 1886 Length Criticisms
Written Monday, February 16, 2015 By Richard Walker
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Having been faced with criticism over the length of The Order: 1886 following YouTuber 'PlayMeThrough' posting the entirety of the game's five and half hour campaign over the weekend, Ready at Dawn CEO and Creative Director Ru Weerasuriya has spoken out regarding the runtime.

Weerasuriya has been reluctant to talk about The Order: 1886's relatively short length, but has spoken to Eurogamer on the subject in broad terms. "Game length is important. Every game has to take its own time to tell its story," he states.

"Some games can be short. Some games can be long. I still remember the first time I picked up Modern Warfare, I finished the campaign in about three-and-a-half or four hours. And it was fun because they made that campaign work for that because they had something else."

The main issue facing The Order: 1886 is the fact that the game features no multiplayer component or additional modes, making a five hour single-player experience and nothing else a little hard to swallow for a $60/£50 game.

To that end, Weerasuriya had the following to say: "I absolutely understand. I know people want to be entertained and have things they can play longer. But the industry has always had diversity. You go back 10 years, there were a lot of games that were just single-player, one time play. There were some games that were single-player and you could jump back in and get more. That's what we did in our game. You can jump back and get other things out of it.

"Do we all need to do the same thing? I hope people who do like these kind of games, do play them. But I also want to be in an industry where me as a gamer, I'm given the choice to do that. I've played games that lasted two hours that were better than games that I played for 16 hours. That's the reality of it.

"I've had many more experiences of very short games that have floored me, that have left me dreaming of the things I could do after, more than the games that have lasted 15, 16, 20 or 30 hours, where I've just been like, okay, I played it through and I got what I wanted, but I didn't get more than what I was expecting. Sometimes I want to be floored, even if it's for a short amount of time.

"Gameplay length for me is so relative to quality. It's just like a movie. Just because a movie is three hours long, it doesn't make it better," Weerasuriya concluded.

The Order: 1886 will be launching exclusively for PlayStation 4 on 20th February. Lee is rustling up a review as we speak.





 
 

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Comment #1 by Hades no1Minion
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 04:11:35 PM
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I am still looking froward to this game and have been for a long time, but that man is completely talking out his hole!

 
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Comment #2 by Spraragen88
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 04:16:58 PM
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Ugh, charging $60 for a game that looks like it should be $20 on PSN and then finding out it is SHORTER than most PSN games is a disgrace.

Do not buy this crap. Once developers find out they can get away with something (like releasing alpha versions of games or charging $60 for a budget title like this) they will follow that trend.

5 hours for a game isn't bad but holy hell charge less. It isn't like there is a lot of quality put behind the game. Even Last of Us was 10+ hours long and that has a similar gameplay style.

Don't give us this "3 hour long movies aren't better" crap because it is a different medium. I hope this game fails. The reviews for it suck already anyways.

 
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Comment #3 by JimmyHACK
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 04:21:34 PM
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Damage Control is Full Effect!!

I am sitting cautiously optimistic as I have always been for the game and not over-hyping it for myself. I know it's a play once and done game and a rental would be smarter, but I won't miss my $60. I will survive.

 
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Comment #4 by tobyrabbit
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 04:41:54 PM
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Not cancelling my pre order. I would much rather form my own opinion on the matter. My money, my choice.

 
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Comment #5 by Foxhoundjd
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:00:25 PM
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I'm buying it. Looks awesome. Everythema doesn't need to be a grind...

 
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Comment #6 by The Kingslayer
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:04:52 PM
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Day one buy for me. No issues with the campaign length at all.

 
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Comment #7 by Varkovsky
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:07:28 PM
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Day 1 buy for me as well. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

 
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Comment #8 by Yowza
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:15:05 PM
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@2 this doesnt look like a psn game.

Im not getting this day one anymore. He should just say the average length and get it over with instead of dancing around the issue and acting like he wont comment on it. Hes defending short games while trying to convince us that length shouldn't be an issue. Thats confirmation that its short. I will play this, bit i wont pay sixty bucks for it.

 
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Comment #9 by cphillips0206
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:18:38 PM
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Buy for me!!! Sony has never let me down. Now Ubi and EA on the other hand provide long hours of poor games, no thanks!!!

 
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Comment #10 by Creasy007
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:21:13 PM
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Movies don't cost $60, either. Pass.

 
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Comment #11 by RAZALAS
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:24:53 PM
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No hate towards the game (actually I might buy it), just to the industry that decides what's "good for us", instead of us (the consumers) deciding what we want from a game.

 
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Comment #12 by CloudStrife768
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:30:23 PM
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I really don't understand the issue. Length =/= quality =/= price. I'd much rather play a shorter game that was amazing than a long game that was crap. I'm also glad they spent the time making a quality title instead of forcing some crappy multiplayer in that almost no one would play. The actual quality remains to be seen, but I'm cautiously optimistic I'll love the game. I was surprised by Uncharted, even though Naughty Dog's previous games were great and I loved them. Ready at Dawn has a similar (but obviously not as established) pedigree of quality games, so it's why I chose to support them by buying the $80 CE of the game. Can't wait to play it this weekend.

 
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Comment #13 by meatballz
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:30:42 PM
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i dont really care about how short it is im just waitin to wat the reviews have to say before i buy it ;p

 
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Comment #14 by XVinny84X
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:34:19 PM
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He has a point for sure, but problem is lots of us gamers are older now and have bills to pay, so we also look for our investment to return itself in time spent on it. If we shell out $60 for a game, and even if it is best game we will play all year, 5-10HRS of it, is a bit underwhelming, considering there will be little to no reason to go back to. There is no branching story lines, no challenges, etc that we heard of and while I appreciate devs not putting pointless collectibles, that are norm these days and only a way of adding pointless hours to game itself, I do wish they would make it last longer or support game by adding some other modes...

Still hoping they have something in their sleeve, so can't wait till reviews are in=)
Oh and #2 there is nothing budget about this title. Did you see how amazing this game looks like?!?!

 
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Comment #15 by meatballz
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:34:41 PM
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wasnt metal gear solid a short game and resi 1 and 2 hmm they are classics.....

 
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Comment #16 by qXDoomBringerXp
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:48:24 PM
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Well, seems like it's confirmed part dead out of the door then, I'm not one to really bash on length, given my love for survival horror games (and their short length), though it does mean i won't be buying it at full price with just 5 hours is of campaign, especially if there's no replay value (which i have a feeling this is essentially an on rails story/shooter, hope I'm wrong there though).

This could be great, but I'll wait for the reviews ect. just find it hard to believe they made it just 5 hours ish, for a new ip that could of spawned quite allot from it, it might be the nail in making sure its the only game in its 'series'.

 
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Comment #17 by Sidar80
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:48:53 PM
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Well I don't care if the game is 3 hours or 5 or 10 I'm going this friday and happily picking up my 150$ edition and will love every minute of it.

 
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Comment #18 by SUM1SLY
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:54:46 PM
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Clint eastwood made a lot of 3hour films and they're much better than today's shorter films.
That just sounds like a excuse. I believe the real reason it's so short is because they had problems making it in the first place and scrapped it and started over then the game got held back so now it sounds like a rush game as they didn't want to miss the deadline again.

 
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Comment #19 by meatballz
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:57:12 PM
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so wat if they started over again aslong as the game is good id rather play a 5hr game thats good than play a 20hr crappy game.

 
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Comment #20 by Loge
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 05:58:33 PM
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We can't complain about padding in AAA games and then turn around and complain when a developer releases a streamlined narrative. That said, the world looks fascinating and I hope you can extend your time with reading side quests or some informative collectibles.

 
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Comment #21 by sanchezz4387
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 06:05:00 PM
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A movie doesn't cost £45, have dlc or micro transactions....stupid comparison from a stupid person

 
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Comment #22 by Kornfan2007
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 06:34:47 PM
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Always happy with short games if I am renting them. Would feel the sting pretty bad if I paid full price for a 5 hour game though. Just don't have the money these days to throw at games like I used to

 
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Comment #23 by CitizenBear
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 07:16:16 PM
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Except for the price, I'm all for shorter games - for me personnaly, that is - due to the simple fact that I just don't have the time I used to have to play videogames. Between personal relationships and work, all the free time I have still has to be divided over different forms of entertainment (movies, music, books and videogames). I love that I can watch a movie in ninety minutes or listen to an album in fifty minutes. But videogames and books are too long for the little time I have. I loved Skyrim, but the fact that I spent sixty hours playing it is just too much (so to speak). I love smaller games that still offer something unique. Games such as Portal, Journey, Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons all offered me great experiences in relatively little time. Hell, even Call Of Duty is pretty entertaining to me. I can have fun and blast through the campaign in five hours and be done with it. I guess I'm ranting, and don't get me wrong guys, I understand the need for long games and value, it's just that now that time is such a relevant factor in my life it kind of saddens me that there are so few games I can play. O well, first world problems.

 
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Comment #24 by PHALANX
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 07:28:02 PM
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all critisims about the order,because this game make by studio that made a game for psp and now just compare graphic with other big companies game for ps4 like ea, ubisoft or activition. other reason ,this is ps4 exclusive and many people out there just want to ruin it if this game release for xboxone i am sure many of problems like Length of gameplay never be going to important.i think if someone want to play game like CG graphic until now this game is the order and if you play it first time it take more more than five hour .
just think if someone watch video of darksoul that entire game complete in 30 min with use a bug and under 1 hour by normal play without bug and then say game not good.

 
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Comment #25 by SoPoF
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 08:58:55 PM
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@18: They're certainly not better BECAUSE they're 3 hours long.

 
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Comment #26 by RAZALAS
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 09:06:45 PM
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Well for a AAA game and its 4 years in development, 5 hours of gameplay is kinda disappointing. I'm eager to read the reviews so I can decide to buy it or not. Anyway I hope devs take this feedback for the future sequel.

 
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Comment #27 by digiboy123
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 09:47:36 PM
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This is the only game in the world, no wonder people are bitching.

 
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Comment #28 by Kingbufflo
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 09:53:51 PM
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Actually kinda glad its shorter, iv been busy with work lately so having an amazing 5 hour experience is much better for me than a decent 10 hour one.

 
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Comment #29 by jerric
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 10:10:14 PM
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I recall Spec Ops: The line lasting bout 6 hours on my first run. Mind you, that was game time at the end, which didn't count deaths or time spent repeating because of death.

It may have been less publicized than the order, but spec ops was an underrated masterpiece that reviewers and many gamers now praise. I'm not optimistic about this game, tbh I knew about it but had yet to be SOLD on it, still I will wait till its out before damning it. It might be the prettiest turd in the litter box or a fantastic game and story that was no longer than necessary. If this news puts you off then don't buy it, and maybe the good news that follows will change your mind. That, or the bad news will reassure you your saved money is better spent elsewhere.

 
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Comment #30 by DarkByke
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 10:35:59 PM
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5 hours is a fucking long time!! What is wrong with people today. They expect games to last a lifetime.

 
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Comment #31 by VoidOfGuts
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 11:11:57 PM
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5 hours is definitely NOT a long time. I'm playing Apotheon right now for free and it's lasted me longer than 5 hours already...

"My money, my choice." Fuck your choice, especially when it hurts other gamers. Pre-Ordering is a horrible practice in the industry now. You're supporting the idea of taking stuff from a game that's supposed to be there from the start, for EVERYONE. You're pretty much allowing the developer to put out an incomplete game because "If we secure enough money before the games even released, we can ship it half-assed and fix the rest later!" So not only are Day-1 buyers getting burnt, anyone who buys the game in the first week (or even buys the game period since some developers suck at fixing issues) gets burnt because your shitty ass choice allowed it to happen.

 
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Comment #32 by ICPosse8
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 11:16:07 PM
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@2

I'd like to see you find a game that looks as good as this, on the store for $20. Not likely dude.

 
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Comment #33 by Serial Killa
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 11:20:38 PM
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What's next, a full priced retail game that is only three hours? Fuck this scam that is next gen. All the fuckwits that mindlessly buy and defend this bullshit will only have themselves to blame as it is only going to get worse and an even bigger rip off than it has already become. I don't think I will be buying many games from now on. I actually have principles and a spine.

 
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Comment #34 by Atreyu_1220
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 11:43:15 PM
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Roll on Friday...

 
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Comment #35 by Jessup
Monday, February 16, 2015 @ 11:43:25 PM
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[ You go back 10 years, there were a lot of games that were just single-player, one time play. There were some games that were single-player and you could jump back in and get more. That's what we did in our game. You can jump back and get other things out of it. ]

In what reality does a single player only of 5-7hr@ $64 equate to 'get other things out'? Jump back into what, exactly? lol, dafuq.

 
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Comment #36 by Wolfwood
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 12:09:40 AM
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or people can look into cheaper ways to get new games for cheap....my bestbuy gamers unlock club gives me a automatic 20% off on new games and i built up points over last year....im getting my CE for 10$ cuz im a smart shopper so i have zero reason to be concerned over a game i know i will enjoy

 
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Comment #37 by ValentineMeikin
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 12:50:39 AM
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Playstation Plus only for me on this game.

Replay value is the BIGGEST requirement for a game. To be able to play it faster, better and stronger.

For everything the game has to offer be over in a day... Sorry, I'm not buying it. Literally.

 
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Comment #38 by PETEtheMEAT
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 12:55:03 AM
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THE GAME IS A TURD , check out the YOUTUBE playthrough , why does this guy BANG on about movie lenth when his (not literally) game is a fucking wannbe movie ???? , LMFAO , oh NO MENTION of ANY innovitive gameplay at all eh ? , Gears of war wannabe !

 
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Comment #39 by SlimFitspeedo
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 01:57:38 AM
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Stfu and stop crying or go find a new hobby if nothing is to your liking, budget...etc. wow seriously. People cry about every damn game these days. If I dont like a game I simply dont buy it...i dont care about a pricetag or length(or if someone wants to try and compare it to a movie). Most of you are so sad.

 
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Comment #40 by Jessup
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 02:02:14 AM
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@39: Are you being ironic?

 
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Comment #41 by PETEtheMEAT
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 02:20:59 AM
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its called an opinion shithead , get it ?

 
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Comment #42 by Jessup
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 03:01:24 AM
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@41: Who are you talking to?

 
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Comment #43 by SolidSquirrel22
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 03:51:48 AM
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I'm looking forward to the game, and I think it looks really fun, but when the devs are essentially saying that the game is in fact 5 or 6 hours long and still wanna charge $60, well, that's when it falls into the rent or discount price for me. Maybe it'll have a good replay value that will help change my mind. IDK. BTW, just to throw it out there, Wolfenstein The New Order and Alien Isolation were both SP only games, but they manged to give 10+ hr campaigns for $60. Just saying.

 
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Comment #44 by VoidOfGuts
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 05:40:08 AM
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@39 Did it ever occur to you that the reason why everyone bitches about "games these days" is because maybe, I don't know, over half of them are broken messes at launch, and have DLC planned (probably already on the disk) before the games even released?

You sir need to stfu and pull your head out of your ass.

 
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Comment #45 by AverySegaw
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 06:08:11 AM
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@36 +1 for Best Buy GCU. I'll probably pick this up when it hits the $20 range and only pay $16. Seems like good value at that point since I'm not the type to speed run through games and will likely manage ~20 hours of value from it.

 
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Comment #46 by Lyrikk
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 06:15:03 AM
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As much as I am still excited for this games story cause it looks pretty sweet, and still going to get it, I'm a little surprised about the length to say the least. Especially since that's it. They should have at least maybe did a cool co-op thing, there is 4 characters in the game right? Maybe they could have taken those characters into a 4-player atmosphere, away from the SP, and did co-op missions or something. Kinda like what Unity did. Just something extra to do, it doesn't have to be competitive MP bs all the time, co-op is usually a good alternative, that's just my opinion though.

I will say though, towards this interview, is what that guy was saying is just absurd. Comparing games to movies is like comparing apples to oranges... Two completely different bases of entertainment. He honestly should have picked a better argument than that.

 
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Comment #47 by RRDude_PBB
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 06:16:12 AM
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Will be waiting for this on PS+ even if takes two years. Not paying for rent material.

 
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Comment #48 by cb765
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 07:13:47 AM
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This development studio is taking Sony for a ride . They gave a good sales pitch , convince Sony to budget a large amount of money , then cut as many corners as possible so they can pocket the budget money . Now all they have to do is play the secretive role with the hopes that enough gamers will preorder this crap so stores will order a second shipment .

Keep in mind this is ready at dawn's first shooter and you can tell they ran out of idea's , and the ones they did have barely put 5 hours of game on the disc .
They put them selfs in a box when they chose that time period , and the box got smaller when they chose to base the game on movie like realism . There are too many shooters on the market for them to think they could get away with this .

I don't care how long the campaign is , the game needs more content , and more game , you can't just wow with graphics anymore .

 
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Comment #49 by PLEYOR
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 07:34:03 AM
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How can people be happy paying £45 / $60 for 2.75 hours worth of game play in a single player campaign, the cut scenes are said to be half of the game play video.

This game, thankfully I guess has no multiplayer but nor does it have a lot going on in the single player department.

I will pick this up once it's sub £20, no way am I paying that price for such a short game.

 
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Comment #50 by adin75
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 07:39:29 AM
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Personally, I'm fine with the length, assuming it is that short (which it could be if you easy mode it and just storm your way through), and look forward to picking it up on Friday.

I would honestly rather play this for 5 hours and never touch it again than play another annualized regurgitated AAA title.

It's good to see some developers taking a chance on new IPs instead of releasing 'generic war shooter 12'.

 
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Comment #51 by KyleJack2412
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 10:04:14 AM
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I have a feeling it will be longer than the guy who played it first. It could be 7 or 10 hours long, not sure.

 
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Comment #52 by dekock86
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 10:05:56 AM
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Why's everyone losing their shit and forgetting this was a 5.5 hour SPEED RUN, skipping whatever could be skipped?!?!! Most normal playtimes i've read about are 12+ hours. Sheesh

 
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Comment #53 by SlimFitspeedo
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 01:37:53 PM
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@44 that's why you DON'T buy them! If you know they're broken or unfinished then why buy it? Half of you all complain and bitch about every game, sure your opinion. Seriously get a new hobby, or dont get soooo hyped about a "Game" then cry when it doesnt meet your standards. Dumbasses!

 
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Comment #54 by AlejandroM
Tuesday, February 17, 2015 @ 04:45:26 PM
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Videogames aren't moves, silly Ru.

 
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Comment #55 by i667090375202107
Saturday, February 21, 2015 @ 08:26:58 AM
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"Some games can be short. Some games can be long. I still remember the first time I picked up Modern Warfare, I finished the campaign in about three-and-a-half or four hours. And it was fun because they made that campaign work for that because they had something else."

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I think he has the wrong attitude about it (or isn't really a gamer himself). MW career is short, yes. But the average person will play the game on normal difficulty first and then again on the hardest. They'll then use chapter select to get the collectables and afterwards spend many many hours in spec ops to get all stars. When this is over they'll spend even more time in multiplayer.

So just because the campaign is short, it doesn't necessarily mean the game is if you have multiple difficulties, additional modes (spec ops was like a complete second campaign for me) and well made multiplayer. But what I heard from The Order is that there is hardly any replay value and most trophies are simple grinds (so they can be got in one playthrough possibly without too much hassle).

Just my opinion though and I was talking about MW2/MW3, not sure if he meant the first game (never played it).

 
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Comment #56 by Guillaume71
Tuesday, March 10, 2015 @ 10:53:21 AM
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I totally am HATING the spoiled gamers now a days, they always want "MORE MORE MORE" but they don't want to pay "more"? are you serious? Making games like THE ORDER is not CHEAP to do, and as it stands I have played the game for over 8 hours so far, taking my TIME not rushing my experience and its by far a way superior game than a franchise rehash. When will gamers realize that you are going to go off of what "someone said, did,reviewed" and then shut your OWN gaming experience out? Shouldn't be called a "gamer' but a "lamer"! come on guys people bitch about price, yet these same people will pay 7 dollars for a pack of cancer ridden cigarettes, and buy mocha lattes everyday of the week, and eat fast food out every day of the week! you all make me laugh sometimes. Soo troll it really is kinda sad the way these spoiled gamers are now a days, and probably couldn't even make a pixel move on their own computer screens... ugg

 
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Comment #57 by Br3akingdawn
Friday, April 17, 2015 @ 09:13:49 AM
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Ready at Dawn CEO and Creative Director Ru Weerasuriya needs to step down. His logic and ideal is wrong, and will only bring the company down.


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